to the person who said the plants could give him O2... that's essentially incorrect; the plants would have to be actively photosynthesizing for that conversion to occur, something a bag of lettuce is going to have little opportunity to do. also, the bag looks like solid plastic to me- no breathing/ air flow. i think i agree with the person who supposes that it's photoshopped, however there probably would be enough oxygen to support a small, fairly immobile frog for a couple of days, a feasible amount of time since the leaves don't look wilted. a frog's not going to starve to death in less time than it takes to wilt greens, either.
These bags are usually nitrogen packed. They would be pretty stupid to pack the greens with CO2 so that the plants can make O2 -- which would accelerate the spoiling.
It's most likely real. It does happen. The frogs are used to keep down pests in organic produce fields and sometimes get "harvested" with the produce. For a real case see: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-nJNFTpU6a7VJ6gtV5rg-?p=11
I've definitely found a frog in a fresh head of lettuce from one of our large local grocery chains. It was quite ashock to everyone when the little guy (or girl) popped out while rinisng it off. It's someting you might expect from a local produce market but certainl not a chain or pre-packaged lettuce. Anyway, I think it's possible but unlikely. One more thing, some of those bags will actually be solid on one side and a sort of mesh on the backside. This could have allowed it to breathe.
I've bought this brand lots of times, it's supposed to be one of the finest. These bags are totally closed and somehow full of "air", that when you open it you feel like it deflates. I don't know if I believe it... I will look closer next time I buy a bag of whatever...
A friend found a dead frog in her salad at a restuarant. Happens here in Australia because restuarant (and apparently grocers) buy their green pre-washed and sealed in bags. The frogs live and breed in the nice comfy green house. I've heard similar stories from other friends.
Think about it: Frogs hibernate when it becomes dark and cold. Like in a fridge. They also consume very little of anything when their metabolism drops that low. So even if there were no air holes, and the lettuce was no longer photosynthesizing, the frog could still survive.
I'm no PhotoShop expert (though I play one on TV!) but I enlarged the photo, and it doesn't look like it's a PS'd picture.
More than likely, the other side is/was opened and the frog inserted.
While the bag appears to be inflated, this could easily be done. Everytime I go to close my bread, there's enough air in there to make the sides buldge out. Only if you squeeze it a little bit do you get the air out.
It's more likely than not that it's a fake, but it's not photoshopped.
the bag is open. look at the top right corner through the inside of the bag. the green print should extend all the way to the top of the bag as it does on the top side but instead you see a small gap where you can see straight to the wall. that's where the bag is still open.
I once found a live mole sealed in a quart of strawberries obtained from the local grocery chain. It had somehow survived being shrinkwrapped and shipped in those small, green baskets. The moment in which I stretched back the plastic, allowing it to scurry free will forever be etched in my mind.
Back in January, we brought home a snail in a bag of celery; my eight-year-old wouldn't allow it to be...er...flushed, so we now have a new pet. Relatively recent photo at http://blogs.oldradio.net/files/P6285857a.JPG.
(Am I the only one who can't see the captcha image in Firefox?)
If you want a good way to tell if it's photoshopped, install the fxif addon into firefox 1.5. This image seems to have had all that extra information stripped from it.
It's not unreasonable to expect that ANY image taken from a digital camera will be modified before posting on the web. I would fully expect the image to be resized and perhaps cropped, just a as a rule of thumb to reduce the overall file size.
"the bag is open. look at the top right corner through the inside of the bag. the green print should extend all the way to the top of the bag as it does on the top side but instead you see a small gap where you can see straight to the wall. that's where the bag is still open."
Incorrect. If you look at the top left of the bag, you'll notice that the green border doesn't extend vertically all the way to the top. Therefore, the seal on the top would be clear, hence the clear area you noticed on the top right of the bag.
if you are going to take a picture like this and expect people to believe it--show both ends of the bag! Duh. I mean, anyone can open a bag of lettuce and put (fill in the blank) in it and only show it from one end. It proves only...that there's something in the bag! (oooh!) Show me BOTH sealed ends...then you've got something.
If you WANT to believe there is a live frog in the bag that had been there since the lettuce was bagged, go ahead. It's not very feasible to that a live frog would sustain itself long enough in such a bag to be ready for picture taking. I don't think it's photoshopped, but I do think a frog was put in the bag so people would think it was in there on it's own and make everyone argue about whether it's real or not. That would be very very easy to do. But it is a cute photo. :)
hmmm this is actually a real picture but yes i can see the point of the person who said it could be put in the bag but it is also unlikely due to the fact you can see the rim on the other side. also it is definetly not PSed i am a bit of an expert and i work with it a lot i know a PS when i see one
If I understand correctly, when the spinach was rinsed the water was most likely contaminated with pollywogs, which over time in a dark damp area hatched into the frog you now see. That’s probably why the frog is still alive in a sealed bag and not photo shopped in.-Try that on for size!!
Actually, that bag does breathe oxygen. The film used is a good water vapor barrier, but a poor gas barrier. The film is chosen to keep the vegetables from rotting as they outgas.
Most times people think "plastic is plastic" but there are many different types of polymer films. The only polymer that is both a good gas and good water vapor barrier is PVDC, otherwise known as Saran. Its properties make it a poor pouch, however, so it's mostly used as a wrap.
duh na na na duh na na na batman bat man....ya ne ways theres like i video of this on youtube but i dont have the url im too lazy for that kind of stuff so im just gonna get back to what im doing.....duh na na..
I work at a Wholesale fruit and veg market, and have done for years. We always used to find weird insects and stuff in the produce. The biggest creature we found was a bat in a box of bananas
I'm not drawing a verdict either way on whether it's a real picture, but I just want to comment that this IS possible. When people are thinking about the amount of oxygen available inside of this bag, they're not thinking of the fact that this is a FROG. Frogs are very cold/freeze/famine-resistent animals that can slow their metabolism and heartrate down to a nearly complete stop in desperate times. Frogs can even be literally frozen, causing their hearts to completely stop beating, and unfrozen up to an hour later and regain regular cardiovascular activity.
When you grow your own vegetables or buy them from a farmer's market, you can expect to find various fauna in them. I'd rather find a few bugs (or a frog) and know that the vegetables haven't been so contaminated with pesticide that they can't support life. If you're ever in the mountains and find a spring coming right out of the rock, look for salamanders, another amphibian which is a first cousin of frogs. It's a sure sign that the water is pure and drinkable.
And, stored at 35 degrees, a frog's metabolism would slow significantly. They live underground during cold weather in suspended animation without nutrients and almost no air.
Why does the bag have to be opened from the top OR the bottom of the bag? How about a small cut to the back of the bag. The frog could then be inserted and someone could blow air into the bag and then place a nice piece of clear tape to seal the hole making the bag appear plump with air. So even if there was a video of the bag being rotated 360 degrees with the back down it would appear the bag was still sealed. No photoshopping necessary. There are times I could remove the plastic wrap off a brand new dvd, watch the movie and put back on the wrap. And no I don't return it to the store..I just like the look of sealed dvds on my shelf!
It's always funny how people are so sure that a corner of a bag which has been pushed inside, or an apparent discontinuity in the imprint, must definitely be a hole :p
Lettuce so fresh it comes with frogs. Mmmmm.... I think it's very plausible for a froggie to be stuck in the bag. If it was old enough for the frog to have died, then you definitely wouldn't want to eat it (aside from the fact that there'd be a dead frog in your lettuce).
I worked at a restaurant years ago. The salads we served were of the pre-bagged variety. Classy, right? Anyway, the owner of said restaurant came in for dinner one night with his wife and children. The wife ordered the large dinner salad. Halfway through the meal she discovered the live snail crawling across her plate. A frog in a bag of lettuce? Totally plausible.
Im not going to argue whether it is real or fake, but I do have to remind you that there are these bag sealers that you can get on those infomercials and some stores that you can reseal the package to keep it fresh longer, like chips and such. just another thing to keep in mind :)
we are fing nerds...arguing wether a frog in a bag of letuce is real or not lol i think the frog was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got vacume packed
Little tiny frogs(peepers?) show up in canned veggies, like peas and beans all the time. Though I think that if they get themselves into a can they definitely come out dead.
I live in farming community. I have seen harvesting here in the US. Some harvesting is done completely in the field. It is picked and bagged right there and sent to the stores. Why do you think we are suppose to wash the veggies before we eat them? It is completely possible that the frog was in the greens when they were picked and bagged in the field. These greens did not necessarily have to be bagged in a warehouse. Further even if they were, that frog still could have gone for a ride amongst the greens and still ended up in the bag. Yes this is odd and I sure don't want to find one in my greens. But what a story to tell "Remember the time we found the live frog in our salad?"
Leafy vegies are packaged with nitrogen, not air. Nitrogen keeps the vegies "green" for a couple weeks instead of a couple of days. Ain't no frog on earth that would survive in a nitrogen atmosphere. It is a fake.
The brand of prewashed lettuce that I buy has holes in the bag. So I know the lettuce is fresh or it would have turned brown, not all are packed using nitrogen. I belive it is possible animals and insects are always found in places they shouldn't be. I've heard that some places use frogs to keep bug infestation to a minimal. I read that one company uses little red bugs to make there red grape fruit. Also ,well a frog might not be small enough, but with bags that have holes bugs can get in even while sitting on the store shelf.
you think thats bad, one of my neighbors found a rat in her jar of pickles she bought from publix!!! and the really bad thing is that she didnt find it till the jar was half gone...
Reminds me of the time a praying mantis came out of my head of lettuce....
ReplyDeleteHeh...I found a couple of ants smashed to the inside of the lid of a freshly opened jar of jam once. I'm not sure if this is better or worse!
ReplyDeleteYeah there's been slugs in our cabbages a few times. A little gross, my mom still can't buy cabbage anymore.
ReplyDeletei once found a small frog in with a bunch of uncut spinach. i released it into a nearby pond.
ReplyDeleteJust think of all the times you didn't "find" them !
ReplyDeleteHim name is Hopkin Green Frog.
ReplyDeletehehe its cute
ReplyDeletei bet its fake.
how long coulda frog last in an airtight bag full of veggies it doesnt eat anyway?
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The bag probably breathes, and even if it didn't, he's with plants (which convert his waste CO2 to O2).
ReplyDeleteto the person who said the plants could give him O2... that's essentially incorrect; the plants would have to be actively photosynthesizing for that conversion to occur, something a bag of lettuce is going to have little opportunity to do. also, the bag looks like solid plastic to me- no breathing/ air flow. i think i agree with the person who supposes that it's photoshopped, however there probably would be enough oxygen to support a small, fairly immobile frog for a couple of days, a feasible amount of time since the leaves don't look wilted. a frog's not going to starve to death in less time than it takes to wilt greens, either.
ReplyDeleteVeggie protein?
ReplyDeleteIt's fake, yo
ReplyDeleteThese bags are usually nitrogen packed. They would be pretty stupid to pack the greens with CO2 so that the plants can make O2 -- which would accelerate the spoiling.
ReplyDeletei vote for fake too (there's smuggy pixels all around the frog)
ReplyDeletethere's enough O2 for the little frog in the bag. It's not you that's in the bag. Besides, don't you know frog can breath through skin?
ReplyDeleteIt's most likely real. It does happen. The frogs are used to keep down pests in organic produce fields and sometimes get "harvested" with the produce. For a real case see:
ReplyDeletehttp://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-nJNFTpU6a7VJ6gtV5rg-?p=11
Umm, let's make that previous Url a tad shorter: http://tinyurl.com/b35mb
ReplyDeletewell you can't really see the other end of the bag, so it could have easily been resealed. simplest explanation.
ReplyDeleteIt's got to be a prank. everyone knows you can open the back of the bag and insert the frog, he looks to fresh to me.
ReplyDeleteI've definitely found a frog in a fresh head of lettuce from one of our large local grocery chains. It was quite ashock to everyone when the little guy (or girl) popped out while rinisng it off. It's someting you might expect from a local produce market but certainl not a chain or pre-packaged lettuce. Anyway, I think it's possible but unlikely. One more thing, some of those bags will actually be solid on one side and a sort of mesh on the backside. This could have allowed it to breathe.
ReplyDeleteIs that true? Or just photoshopped?
ReplyDeleteI've bought this brand lots of times, it's supposed to be one of the finest. These bags are totally closed and somehow full of "air", that when you open it you feel like it deflates. I don't know if I believe it... I will look closer next time I buy a bag of whatever...
ReplyDeleteA friend found a dead frog in her salad at a restuarant. Happens here in Australia because restuarant (and apparently grocers) buy their green pre-washed and sealed in bags. The frogs live and breed in the nice comfy green house. I've heard similar stories from other friends.
ReplyDeleteThink about it: Frogs hibernate when it becomes dark and cold. Like in a fridge. They also consume very little of anything when their metabolism drops that low. So even if there were no air holes, and the lettuce was no longer photosynthesizing, the frog could still survive.
ReplyDeleteI'm no PhotoShop expert (though I play one on TV!) but I enlarged the photo, and it doesn't look like it's a PS'd picture.
ReplyDeleteMore than likely, the other side is/was opened and the frog inserted.
While the bag appears to be inflated, this could easily be done. Everytime I go to close my bread, there's enough air in there to make the sides buldge out. Only if you squeeze it a little bit do you get the air out.
It's more likely than not that it's a fake, but it's not photoshopped.
the bag is open. look at the top right corner through the inside of the bag. the green print should extend all the way to the top of the bag as it does on the top side but instead you see a small gap where you can see straight to the wall. that's where the bag is still open.
ReplyDeleteI once found a live mole sealed in a quart of strawberries obtained from the local grocery chain. It had somehow survived being shrinkwrapped and shipped in those small, green baskets. The moment in which I stretched back the plastic, allowing it to scurry free will forever be etched in my mind.
ReplyDeletehehe, how are the chances?
ReplyDeleteThats cute.
ReplyDeleteBack in January, we brought home a snail in a bag of celery; my eight-year-old wouldn't allow it to be...er...flushed, so we now have a new pet. Relatively recent photo at http://blogs.oldradio.net/files/P6285857a.JPG.
ReplyDelete(Am I the only one who can't see the captcha image in Firefox?)
Nope - not the only one who cant see an image.
ReplyDeletefake.
ReplyDeletefrogs are tasty! *bonus*
ReplyDeleteIf you want a good way to tell if it's photoshopped, install the fxif addon into firefox 1.5. This image seems to have had all that extra information stripped from it.
ReplyDeleteFxif:
http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/fxif/
It's not unreasonable to expect that ANY image taken from a digital camera will be modified before posting on the web. I would fully expect the image to be resized and perhaps cropped, just a as a rule of thumb to reduce the overall file size.
ReplyDelete"the bag is open. look at the top right corner through the inside of the bag. the green print should extend all the way to the top of the bag as it does on the top side but instead you see a small gap where you can see straight to the wall. that's where the bag is still open."
ReplyDeleteIncorrect. If you look at the top left of the bag, you'll notice that the green border doesn't extend vertically all the way to the top. Therefore, the seal on the top would be clear, hence the clear area you noticed on the top right of the bag.
if you are going to take a picture like this and expect people to believe it--show both ends of the bag! Duh. I mean, anyone can open a bag of lettuce and put (fill in the blank) in it and only show it from one end. It proves only...that there's something in the bag! (oooh!) Show me BOTH sealed ends...then you've got something.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes you think that the frog is alive?
ReplyDeletehttp://macl.blogspot.com/2006/05/salta-la-rana-en-la-ensalada.html
ReplyDeletereal.
If you WANT to believe there is a live frog in the bag that had been there since the lettuce was bagged, go ahead. It's not very feasible to that a live frog would sustain itself long enough in such a bag to be ready for picture taking. I don't think it's photoshopped, but I do think a frog was put in the bag so people would think it was in there on it's own and make everyone argue about whether it's real or not. That would be very very easy to do. But it is a cute photo. :)
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely disgusting!
ReplyDeleteGreat!!!!
ReplyDeletehmmm this is actually a real picture but yes i can see the point of the person who said it could be put in the bag but it is also unlikely due to the fact you can see the rim on the other side. also it is definetly not PSed i am a bit of an expert and i work with it a lot i know a PS when i see one
ReplyDeleteIts not Photoshopped, theres another picture but at a different angle.
ReplyDeleteUmm, just a thought but how many people keep frogs handy to put in bags of salad they buy from the store?
ReplyDeleteactually i think if u look at the right top of the bag u can see how its cut.
ReplyDeleteI think the frog is real and the greens are fake.
ReplyDeleteI agree, the top right corner has been cut. And that is more than likely how the frog was placed in the bag.
ReplyDeleteFrog has no nerves.
ReplyDeleteFrog is as old as a cockroach.
Frog is my father's genitals.
Frog is a malformed doorknob.
Frog is a soft bag of green.
...."The Frog Prince" by Anne Sexton (1928-1974)
If I understand correctly, when the spinach was rinsed the water was most likely contaminated with pollywogs, which over time in a dark damp area hatched into the frog you now see. That’s probably why the frog is still alive in a sealed bag and not photo shopped in.-Try that on for size!!
ReplyDeleteActually, that bag does breathe oxygen. The film used is a good water vapor barrier, but a poor gas barrier. The film is chosen to keep the vegetables from rotting as they outgas.
ReplyDeleteMost times people think "plastic is plastic" but there are many different types of polymer films. The only polymer that is both a good gas and good water vapor barrier is PVDC, otherwise known as Saran. Its properties make it a poor pouch, however, so it's mostly used as a wrap.
I'm a chef and I have had many kinds of bugs and ants in lettuce that come to us in sealed bags
ReplyDeleteMost bagged lettuce only has a few days of shelf life.
so thats what e. coli looks like
ReplyDeleteduh na na na duh na na na batman bat man....ya ne ways theres like i video of this on youtube but i dont have the url im too lazy for that kind of stuff so im just gonna get back to what im doing.....duh na na..
ReplyDeleteI work at a Wholesale fruit and veg market, and have done for years.
ReplyDeleteWe always used to find weird insects and stuff in the produce. The biggest creature we found was a bat in a box of bananas
In a bag that could breathe the lettus would turn brown. Don't belive me?
ReplyDeleteOpen the bag and let it sit there for a few days.
I'm not drawing a verdict either way on whether it's a real picture, but I just want to comment that this IS possible. When people are thinking about the amount of oxygen available inside of this bag, they're not thinking of the fact that this is a FROG. Frogs are very cold/freeze/famine-resistent animals that can slow their metabolism and heartrate down to a nearly complete stop in desperate times. Frogs can even be literally frozen, causing their hearts to completely stop beating, and unfrozen up to an hour later and regain regular cardiovascular activity.
ReplyDeletemost adorable piece of lettuce ever!
ReplyDeleteIf it is real, the nice thing to do would be to let it out... the evil blogger thing to do is photograph it.
ReplyDeleteWhen you grow your own vegetables or buy them from a farmer's market, you can expect to find various fauna in them. I'd rather find a few bugs (or a frog) and know that the vegetables haven't been so contaminated with pesticide that they can't support life. If you're ever in the mountains and find a spring coming right out of the rock, look for salamanders, another amphibian which is a first cousin of frogs. It's a sure sign that the water is pure and drinkable.
ReplyDeleteAnd, stored at 35 degrees, a frog's metabolism would slow significantly. They live underground during cold weather in suspended animation without nutrients and almost no air.
Why does the bag have to be opened from the top OR the bottom of the bag? How about a small cut to the back of the bag. The frog could then be inserted and someone could blow air into the bag and then place a nice piece of clear tape to seal the hole making the bag appear plump with air. So even if there was a video of the bag being rotated 360 degrees with the back down it would appear the bag was still sealed. No photoshopping necessary. There are times I could remove the plastic wrap off a brand new dvd, watch the movie and put back on the wrap. And no I don't return it to the store..I just like the look of sealed dvds on my shelf!
ReplyDeleteIt's always funny how people are so sure that a corner of a bag which has been pushed inside, or an apparent discontinuity in the imprint, must definitely be a hole :p
ReplyDeleteI found this mouse in a bottle of your beer and a friend of ours - a cop - he puked so I believe there'll be no charge for to this beer today.
ReplyDeleteLooks like E Bola to me!
ReplyDeleteI once at half a panini in Italy before realising there was catapillar crawling around on the lettuce.
ReplyDeleteSpontaneous generation, yo.
ReplyDeleteLettuce so fresh it comes with frogs. Mmmmm.... I think it's very plausible for a froggie to be stuck in the bag. If it was old enough for the frog to have died, then you definitely wouldn't want to eat it (aside from the fact that there'd be a dead frog in your lettuce).
ReplyDeleteThis bag was intended for French supermarkets.
ReplyDeleteLet's just be thankful he's not in a bag of Spinach... That'd be more bad press for that Veg!
ReplyDeleteI worked at a restaurant years ago. The salads we served were of the pre-bagged variety. Classy, right? Anyway, the owner of said restaurant came in for dinner one night with his wife and children. The wife ordered the large dinner salad. Halfway through the meal she discovered the live snail crawling across her plate. A frog in a bag of lettuce? Totally plausible.
ReplyDeleteIm not going to argue whether it is real or fake, but I do have to remind you that there are these bag sealers that you can get on those infomercials and some stores that you can reseal the package to keep it fresh longer, like chips and such. just another thing to keep in mind :)
ReplyDeleteMy daughter was eating a peach last week only to find three earwigs when she got to the middle.
ReplyDeleteI belive it all comes down to one message:
ReplyDeleteBelieve it or not!
or
Don't each fresh veg and fruit :P
Buy frozen stuff that's safer!
I wonder if frogs are immune to e Coli.
ReplyDeleteoh my god... its just a pic on the web... dont blow a fuse
ReplyDeletefrog in bag...funny
Found a frog just like this one in my fridge last week. These things happen!
ReplyDeleteIt could be that there are very small holes int he bag? Also if the frog was kept in a freezer he could start hibernating.
ReplyDeletewe are fing nerds...arguing wether a frog in a bag of letuce is real or not lol i think the frog was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got vacume packed
ReplyDeleteIt's one of those free toy frogs you get - like in a cereal box.
ReplyDeleteLittle tiny frogs(peepers?) show up in canned veggies, like peas and beans all the time. Though I think that if they get themselves into a can they definitely come out dead.
ReplyDeleteI live in farming community. I have seen harvesting here in the US. Some harvesting is done completely in the field. It is picked and bagged right there and sent to the stores. Why do you think we are suppose to wash the veggies before we eat them? It is completely possible that the frog was in the greens when they were picked and bagged in the field. These greens did not necessarily have to be bagged in a warehouse. Further even if they were, that frog still could have gone for a ride amongst the greens and still ended up in the bag. Yes this is odd and I sure don't want to find one in my greens. But what a story to tell "Remember the time we found the live frog in our salad?"
ReplyDeleteLeafy vegies are packaged with nitrogen, not air. Nitrogen keeps the vegies "green" for a couple weeks instead of a couple of days. Ain't no frog on earth that would survive in a nitrogen atmosphere. It is a fake.
ReplyDeleteThe brand of prewashed lettuce that I buy has holes in the bag. So I know the lettuce is fresh or it would have turned brown, not all are packed using nitrogen. I belive it is possible animals and insects are always found in places they shouldn't be. I've heard that some places use frogs to keep bug infestation to a minimal. I read that one company uses little red bugs to make there red grape fruit. Also ,well a frog might not be small enough, but with bags that have holes bugs can get in even while sitting on the store shelf.
ReplyDeleteThat is not real. Like all those people said, that frog looks like it came from a cereal box
ReplyDeleteIn France they would complain about the leaves in their bag of frogs :)
ReplyDeleteyou think thats bad, one of my neighbors found a rat in her jar of pickles she bought from publix!!! and the really bad thing is that she didnt find it till the jar was half gone...
ReplyDelete